Please, no more "when's the next game?" threads.

[Webmaster]

New rule: No more "when's the next game?" posts, especially within days of me uploading a few thousand dollars worth of content. Give me a break guys.

DareRing isn't just another generic porn site that buys bulk cheap non-exclusive overexposed russian DVD filler content, simply so I can advertise weekly updates.

I don't want to be a buzz kill here, but DareRing is expensive and difficult to produce. And it's not my only job. When a game comes together, it's awesome and noone is happier about it than me - but it's still a lot of work.

I spend a couple hundred dollars a month placing classified ads, and ads online. I field dozens of calls and emails everyday, not to mention the drunks in the middle of the night. We also offer referral bonuses to try and get people taking to their friends about it.

Of those who agree to meet for an interview, only a few actually show up. My wife and I spend hours each week sitting alone at restaurants or coffee shops waiting for people who don't have the courtesy to tell us they've changed their minds ... Then when I call them to find out why, it always turns out their car broke down or they got in an accident. If this were true, then we must be cursed and if you agree to meet us you have approximately a 50/50 chance of crashing on the way there. I try to schedule several interviews at the same time, just hoping to meet someone, anyone.

Assuming somebody does show up, and they're not obviously on meth (another big eliminator and waste of time), then we get the paperwork signed and copys of IDs etc and try to work out when they'll be available to play.

Getting six peoples schedules to match is a challenge. If only they didn't have to work, go out of town, have concert tickets, etc ... and money isn't as big of a motivator as you'd think it would be.

Here's the really shitty part. After all this, after I've got all the players confirmed and re-confirmed, it's game-night and we've decorated and we're supposed to start at 10pm ... but it's now 11pm and half the players aren't there yet. No calls, the missing people aren't picking up their cells, nothing. And I've got three or four people who've given up their Saturday night (maybe switched shifts, called in sick, skipped a social engagement) and they are expecting to play and might be relying on that check and now they're going home disappointed ...

I would say only half the games we plan actually happen. I never know for sure until the point where I hit the record button. That's why I don't come here to the forums and announce games in advance. Because I don't want to make commitments to you and then break them. I run this site honestly and show you exactly what to expect in the members area with no exaggerations or false promises or gimmicks to try to increase sales.

That's the other side of making games happen. If you're going to sell videos of a girl sucking dick on the internet, she rightly expects to get compensated something for it. Even the guys too, since they're also risking a dick in their mouth, fair is fair. Now multiply the number of games on this site times the number of players times how much you think people expect to be paid for stuff like this ... :holycow:

So ultimately what I'm saying is I've been doing my best with the people and resources I have available (made possible by your subscriptions. Thank you!). If you think you could do it better then I encourage you to start your own website. To everybody else, I'm filled with pride that you're eager to see more DareRing games, but filling up the forum with the same threads over and over isn't going to make them come any faster so from now on I'm just going to delete those redundant topics.

[jel424]

Hear hear! Please make this a sticky, and maybe-- just maybe-- people will find this acceptable and chill out. Keep up the good work. :applause:

[GreenStamp]

Yeah. I have to say it's amazing, given the logistical difficulties, what you've managed to accomplish with the site so far.

[MEPMEP]

Don't take the questions as criticism - i think they are indications of your success - you are a victim of your own genius!

Keep up the good work. I for one would be willing to let my subscription renew automatically if that would help you make the site work better financially! This site is unique and you guys are doing a great job. Thank you thank you. :applause: http://truth.darering.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=16957#
Clapping

[Fuel4thefury]

No your doing an excellent job man. I mean yeah it seems like it would take a long time to go through the process of finding players that you can trust will be there. I mean you also have to go through the processes that you were saying and also have to make sure they are clean so someone doesnt get something and end up trying to bring it all back on you.

Well you been doing a good job and i wish you luck man.

haha i would also shameful like to throw out that I am always down to being in some darering games. E-mail me for a picture and some information because i would be more than happy just to get enough to make it up to do a game and just experience it and hell it is a chance to travel to local state i have never been to :-D

[mopek]

This last reply was interesting. Maybe you could recruit from within the forum? Or ask other webmasters of other ToD sites if they wouldn't mind asking their site visitors. (hint hint)

I had no idea it was that difficult. But should have. I know too well how people cancel, don't show up etc...

We all appretiate you doing this. None of us would as you said.

I think it's great that you also wrote that post to show everyone how challenging it really is. Most of us didn't know. The fact that people keep asking "when's the next game!!!" is because they love it so much. But it's also good to remind those that may think that you're being lazy, or that you're trying to run their subscriptions over to the next month etc. that you're not. It's just simply difficult to get consistent quality porn.

We know you're doing your best and will be more patient. having said that I ask, "so, when's the next g ..." kidding!

Perhaps you could write a quick post every now and then saying something like, " I'm still trying to get a new game started, maybe a week, maybe 3 but it's coming" .... or something similar. That's usually reassuring for members to hear.

mopek :)

[wizlop]

Here's the really shitty part. After all this, after I've got all the players confirmed and re-confirmed, it's game-night and we've decorated and we're supposed to start at 10pm ... but it's now 11pm and half the players aren't there yet. No calls, the missing people aren't picking up their cells, nothing. And I've got three or four people who've given up their Saturday night (maybe switched shifts, called in sick, skipped a social engagement) and they are expecting to play and might be relying on that check and now they're going home disappointed ...

.

Its annoying, eh! I have worked with models as I do some amateur photography- I found professionals can be reiled upon, amateurs can't. BUT we all know amateurs are so much better.

But a suggestion- why not have a kind of back up game planned for if the numbers are smaller than expected? Kind of dare-ring mini or dare ring light. I realise the drawback is of course cost.

[Webmaster]

But a suggestion- why not have a kind of back up game planned for if the numbers are smaller than expected? Kind of dare-ring mini or dare ring light. I realise the drawback is of course cost.
That was the idea behind the bonus games, but I wasn't sure how much people would like those compared to the real DareRing games.

[wizlop]

That was the idea behind the bonus games, but I wasn't sure how much people would like those compared to the real DareRing games.

I liked the bonus games, but I prefere the main games. I'm sure 99.9% of people here will feel the same!

You could maybe have a version of dare ring for four players- I realise this is drifting off topic, so I'll start its own thread.

[dlt]

That was the idea behind the bonus games, but I wasn't sure how much people would like those compared to the real DareRing games.

Don't like em as much as the 'real' games, but I still like them enough to pay for em. Especially the ones with sexual contact, those are nearly as good as the full games.

Ooh, and the one with actual straight penetrative sex, which is I think the first of that you have on the site, I really like that!

[jack345]

Hey webmaster, no spoilers should be posted in the thread.

Also the Bonus Games tread whould have a spoilers indicator on it.

[Light Bulb]

Which one is that?

Pie eating contest

[Dalcon]

I and my wife really enjoyed the bonus games, a kind of behind the scenes look at the players is how we felt about them. Don't get me wrong, we love all the content.

[soccerguy]

Who wants to bet we get some new content soon since everyone who renewed for the bonus games should now be finished with the 30 day subscription? Anyone else see it coming?

[lepre]

Who wants to bet we get some new content soon since everyone who renewed for the bonus games should now be finished with the 30 day subscription? Anyone else see it coming?

I think that has happened before, but I wouldn't blame him. It's still worth every penny!
:inlove:

[wizlop]

Will the next game be game 14? Some folk like to avoid the.... unlucky number!

[jack345]

There may have been a few later buyers for the bonus games so they all may not be expired yet.

Last time it took the webaster almost two months before he posted new content. He had a great spurt to get games 7-10, then games 11 and 12, and now just one set of bonus stuff.

Here's hopping he gets another spurt and post a few darering games, and maybe a few new bonus games as well.

I would pefer to see games rather than bonus stuff. Maybe he can do games with smaller groups of four. The rounds would go faster and the clothes would too. Then he could do bonus stuff with the same group.

[asmithee]

I think a big part of the problem is just the uncertainty of what's going on.

I sympathize with the webmaster, it seems that most of the amateur sites either give up rapidly or resort to using pro or semi-pro talent quickly. So I'm very appreciative of the effort and frustration of recruiting real amateurs.

But, as a viewer, I find myself periodically thinking "I wonder if there are any dare ring updates? So i'll go check the web page. And if I find nothing, I'll go check the forums. See there are any new threads about a new game? And if I find nothing I'll start wondering if the site has been abandoned (based on previous experience). So I'll search for posts from the Webmaster. And if I see activity within the last few weeks at least I'm comforted by that.

A fairly frustrating process. Especially in those long periods between updates. If I don't see activity I stop checking as frequently.

I nearly missed the "bonus games" because they were posted at the bottom of the videos page.

Maybe the Webmaster should set up a mailing list. Let us know when updates are posted. And ideally progress updates as well. I'd appreciate hearing: "Waited in the diner for two new players this week. Got stood up." or "Shot a bunch of footage last weekend. Editing it now: should have an update in a week or two." If you are spending all that time waiting for players to show up you can use that time to type up some updates. :-)

Just a thought, because I like the site.

--AS

[jel424]

I think a big part of the problem is just the uncertainty of what's going on.

I sympathize with the webmaster, it seems that most of the amateur sites either give up rapidly or resort to using pro or semi-pro talent quickly. So I'm very appreciative of the effort and frustration of recruiting real amateurs.

But, as a viewer, I find myself periodically thinking "I wonder if there are any dare ring updates? So i'll go check the web page. And if I find nothing, I'll go check the forums. See there are any new threads about a new game? And if I find nothing I'll start wondering if the site has been abandoned (based on previous experience). So I'll search for posts from the Webmaster. And if I see activity within the last few weeks at least I'm comforted by that.

A fairly frustrating process. Especially in those long periods between updates. If I don't see activity I stop checking as frequently.

I nearly missed the "bonus games" because they were posted at the bottom of the videos page.

Maybe the Webmaster should set up a mailing list. Let us know when updates are posted. And ideally progress updates as well. I'd appreciate hearing: "Waited in the diner for two new players this week. Got stood up." or "Shot a bunch of footage last weekend. Editing it now: should have an update in a week or two." If you are spending all that time waiting for players to show up you can use that time to type up some updates. :-)

Just a thought, because I like the site.

--AS

So, did you seek to get your name removed from the credits of this post?

Hahaha, I know that hardly anyone will understand where that came from. :rotfl:

[swmwshrk]

I think a big part of the problem is just the uncertainty of what's going on.

I sympathize with the webmaster, it seems that most of the amateur sites either give up rapidly or resort to using pro or semi-pro talent quickly. So I'm very appreciative of the effort and frustration of recruiting real amateurs.

But, as a viewer, I find myself periodically thinking "I wonder if there are any dare ring updates? So i'll go check the web page. And if I find nothing, I'll go check the forums. See there are any new threads about a new game? And if I find nothing I'll start wondering if the site has been abandoned (based on previous experience). So I'll search for posts from the Webmaster. And if I see activity within the last few weeks at least I'm comforted by that.

A fairly frustrating process. Especially in those long periods between updates. If I don't see activity I stop checking as frequently.

I nearly missed the "bonus games" because they were posted at the bottom of the videos page.

Maybe the Webmaster should set up a mailing list. Let us know when updates are posted. And ideally progress updates as well. I'd appreciate hearing: "Waited in the diner for two new players this week. Got stood up." or "Shot a bunch of footage last weekend. Editing it now: should have an update in a week or two." If you are spending all that time waiting for players to show up you can use that time to type up some updates. :-)

Just a thought, because I like the site.

--ASGreat idea

[asmithee]

So, did you seek to get your name removed from the credits of this post?

Hahaha, I know that hardly anyone will understand where that came from. :rotfl:

I always wonder when people get that reference. I actually had someone on an adult site recommend to me that I not use my real name anymore. :)

[wizlop]

And if I find nothing I'll start wondering if the site has been abandoned (based on previous experience).
--AS

I know what you mean about adult sites being "abandoned" - It happens a lot, a site builds up content and then is left online to take subscriptions, often years after the original project has finished.

This isn't a problem, as such, just a fact of life on the web.

....

I have a suggestion here about something that could be done.

Maye little interviews with each player, posted one a week as a mini-update. It wouldn;t have to be much- just a little something to keep the site "fresh." They could of course be filmed before/after the games.

The advantage too would be that we know a bit about the players.

I think too it would be good to see the little interviews BEFORE a game is posted- a great "teaser". For example you might see an player you like the look of in an interview, and then look forward to the darering that features them.

[DandoesDallas]

Just having read the webmasters original post, i would just like to express my utter respect and support for what you are doing, and still trying to do.

DareRing is a wonderful idea, and good "clean" fun,...i have never subscribed to ANY internet site before, and doubtfully ever will after this, i am not a big porn fan, i just found this whole idea utterly intriguing, but i am glad to be supporting this in whatever small way my subscription helped.

[Glenn]

I love the idea of blowjob roulette. I think that is worthy of having its own series tbh.

[bigbad266]

The blowjob roulette is one of the best things I've seen on here, really cool idea.

Not to sound like a dick, but hasn't it been a good couple months since any updates now?

[David684]

why update ?
i think whats here is here
and thats it

[lickmyasshole]

My subscription has run out and whilst I do not expect an update every week or even every month, it would be good to know whether it will ever be updated again or at least when the next update would be. I am sure this is not alot to ask.

I am sure you all agree that this is a fantastic site, which is why we are al so keen for a new update!!

[Fred Lake]

Kudos to the site owner for what is here (although, apparently, there hasn't been anything added in four months? shucks.) I once tried, for a couple of months, to shoot strip games for another website that was hurting for content, and had the same experience. None of the girls (strippers I met in a strip club who said they wanted to do it and were offered $300 to be in a strip poker game) ever showed up. Every excuse you can imagine: out of town friends suddenly showed up, I have a cold, I heard somebody else wasn't going to show up so I assumed there wouldn't be enough players, yadda yadda yadda. I finally gave up trying.

I heard about Dare Ring from Strip Game Central, and had it on my list of sites to check out. Other night I was looking for places to spend the porn money my wife gave me as a Christmas present (she says I can get my appetite anywere I want if I come home for supper) and gave it a try. Wow. This is incredible stuff and I'd kill for weekly updates.

Definitely figure out how to notify ex-members when new content is posted. You also need to find other ways to generate content, content of any kind. The Bonus games are great stuff, and give the site more variety. When you have just a few players show up, play blowjob roulette, a great game and eventually worthy of a spin-off site. Hell, if one girl shows up, play POV strip blackjack or something. Anything to generate more content of the quality you have shown.

Another idea is to also shoot stills of each game, and after posting the video, post the stills. For that matter, go back and screen-cap the 18 games you already have and post those.

[bigbad266]

This site is now "dead" in regards to new content, yeah?
I got a mail about that sellyoursextape site that you've now started - took a look, but it looks really fake & staged.

Shame, this site was fantastic.

[lepre]

This site is now "dead" in regards to new content, yeah?
I got a mail about that sellyoursextape site that you've now started - took a look, but it looks really fake & staged.

Shame, this site was fantastic.

I agree

[frednj37]

When will you add new games? It has been a long time since you've updated?

[didiervandoren]

more than a half year without an update !!

[mitch201]

New rule: No more "when's the next game?" posts, especially within days of me uploading a few thousand dollars worth of content. Give me a break guys.

DareRing isn't just another generic porn site that buys bulk cheap non-exclusive overexposed russian DVD filler content, simply so I can advertise weekly updates.

I don't want to be a buzz kill here, but DareRing is expensive and difficult to produce. And it's not my only job. When a game comes together, it's awesome and noone is happier about it than me - but it's still a lot of work.

I spend a couple hundred dollars a month placing classified ads, and ads online. I field dozens of calls and emails everyday, not to mention the drunks in the middle of the night. We also offer referral bonuses to try and get people taking to their friends about it.

Of those who agree to meet for an interview, only a few actually show up. My wife and I spend hours each week sitting alone at restaurants or coffee shops waiting for people who don't have the courtesy to tell us they've changed their minds ... Then when I call them to find out why, it always turns out their car broke down or they got in an accident. If this were true, then we must be cursed and if you agree to meet us you have approximately a 50/50 chance of crashing on the way there. I try to schedule several interviews at the same time, just hoping to meet someone, anyone.

Assuming somebody does show up, and they're not obviously on meth (another big eliminator and waste of time), then we get the paperwork signed and copys of IDs etc and try to work out when they'll be available to play.

Getting six peoples schedules to match is a challenge. If only they didn't have to work, go out of town, have concert tickets, etc ... and money isn't as big of a motivator as you'd think it would be.

Here's the really shitty part. After all this, after I've got all the players confirmed and re-confirmed, it's game-night and we've decorated and we're supposed to start at 10pm ... but it's now 11pm and half the players aren't there yet. No calls, the missing people aren't picking up their cells, nothing. And I've got three or four people who've given up their Saturday night (maybe switched shifts, called in sick, skipped a social engagement) and they are expecting to play and might be relying on that check and now they're going home disappointed ...

I would say only half the games we plan actually happen. I never know for sure until the point where I hit the record button. That's why I don't come here to the forums and announce games in advance. Because I don't want to make commitments to you and then break them. I run this site honestly and show you exactly what to expect in the members area with no exaggerations or false promises or gimmicks to try to increase sales.

That's the other side of making games happen. If you're going to sell videos of a girl sucking dick on the internet, she rightly expects to get compensated something for it. Even the guys too, since they're also risking a dick in their mouth, fair is fair. Now multiply the number of games on this site times the number of players times how much you think people expect to be paid for stuff like this ... :holycow:

So ultimately what I'm saying is I've been doing my best with the people and resources I have available (made possible by your subscriptions. Thank you!). If you think you could do it better then I encourage you to start your own website. To everybody else, I'm filled with pride that you're eager to see more DareRing games, but filling up the forum with the same threads over and over isn't going to make them come any faster so from now on I'm just going to delete those redundant topics. Allk y7ou have to do is tell me when and were an Ill love to play

[Umbro]

I have had contact via mail with the webmaster about this subject recently. (couple of days ago)
There are no updates planned in the near future. Right now most of the attention goes to the new "sextape" site.

It is a shame but there is nothing we can do about it. I will write down the URL and check in a couple of months to see if anything has changed. I found the site by accident and joined instantly. I guess all we can do twiddling our thumbs and wait, and check this post.

After reading this post I can understand a bit more about how difficult it is to set up a new game.

[lepre]

if there ever will be some more games, i doubt it will be only one, cause the webmaster has lost all his customer at this time. it's sad that the webmaster not is more of a businessman, cause the stuff on "sell your sextape" you can find for free anywhere on the internet, but this was quite unique. It was two months since i last checked here and it goes longer and longer time between my checks. I will check back in 6 months, if there's still nothing new, I will consider this site very dead.
:( :cry: :(

[Umbro]

I have to agree with you Lepre. The darering site is (was?) unique. Even though not all games were good, but I liked the amateur setup and I enjoyed the sexual tension between the players (well most of them).

The new site doesn't apeal to me what so ever. The "watch me fuck my girlfriend tapes" are all over the internet, and often available for free.

The Truth and Dare games looked like a new niche on the internet. From what I understand is getting people to play the games is the biggest problem because the webmaster is in a small town.

Maybe some ideas to consider:
- after placing adds in the free papers of Portland as the closest bigger city, rent a room or something every last saturday of the month to tape a game (and maybe a bonus), if this works you have two updates a month (and the players won't have to travel for a couple of hours, hence more responce (?));
- sell or rent out the concept of this website to a producer in a larger city, the contract should state that the buyer will not significantly modify the concept.
:thumb:

[ericw95]

Maybe some ideas to consider:
- sell or rent out the concept of this website to a producer in a larger city, the contract should state that the buyer will not significantly modify the concept.
:thumb:

Or better yet combine the two concepts for this site and offer "Sell your Truth or Dare Tape" :thumb: :thumb: :D :D :applause: :applause:

[Umbro]

Hmmm, why didn't I think of that, Thats maybe even a better idea :applause:

[Jazzbeu55]

When small business owners have a great concept, but not enough capital or human resources to expand their business quickly, they normally resort to franchising. Traditional franchising is not an option here, but elements from franchising could be applied to the ideas of Umbro and EricW95.

Perhaps the website owner could put together of a packet of model release forms, filming/technical standards, game rules/parameters, recruiting tips, and other information that a local producer might need.
With this set of "helps" to start-up, local producers in large cities or on university campuses could make the videos. The website owner could buy the ones that meet his standards, for about what it cost him to produce a video plus maybe a small residual for the producer for the first few months based on download activity for the videos produced.

Revenue would flow into the site again, because there would be something new to buy and those of us who appreciate this fresh concept for a site could get new videos, with new faces (and bodies) from across the country. The website owner would have his hassles change from chasing down models and trying to set up filmings to dealing with the local film producers trying to sell their product to the site. His role would change to consutant, coach, and quality control person. He could decide how many videos to purchase based on the increase in revenues and his need to turn a profit.

I know there are contract and legal issues involved beyond the scope of the preceding paragraph, but I honestly believe that it is an idea that could bring life back to the website, sanity back to the webmaster's life, and allow wanna-be film makers to get experience while preserving a great concept.

Anyway, this represents my best effort to piggyback on some good ideas.

[Umbro]

Well I guess all of us together must have given the webmaster enough food for thought about this subject.

I still think that with a bit of imagination and effort this concept could be a nice money-earner.

[silentone]

*sigh* I just discovered this site, and it's kinda sad to see that i seems like there will be no more updates... Cause now I'm even more uncertain about signing up, cause I would have prefered to think about it as "I pay for there to be more updates" instead of paying for the existing stuff :-/

[Umbro]

*sigh* I just discovered this site, and it's kinda sad to see that i seems like there will be no more updates... Cause now I'm even more uncertain about signing up, cause I would have prefered to think about it as "I pay for there to be more updates" instead of paying for the existing stuff :-/

Silentone, from what I understand, you only joined the forum and not the Darering website.
As you might have read here, there was a lively discussion about the updates. :rant:

If you didn't join the darering site I can tell you the games (in my opinion) are worth the one-time charge. You can sign up safely. :bounce:

[Jazzbeu55]

I'll join the chorus on this one, Silentone. This site is a very good one time buy. You get 12 games of very origional content, plus the set of bonus games. Most people either love this type of content or move on quickly to look for the serious porn. If you like strip games/voyeur content, this site is essentially impossible to beat. I don't regret joining once. I would love it if there was a weekly update that justifed a continuos membership or a monthly update that would entice me to rejoin 2 or 3 time a year. My current dilema is whether I want to shell out a months membership fee to get the bonus games plus the last game added (13 or new 9). I will talk myself into doing that soon, but I'd be more enthusiastic if more updates were coming. Anyway, it is a special site and the webmaster has braved some tough challenges to put it out here for us. He is to be applauded for creating this material. I find it well work the price of a one month membership. :applause:

[puzzler]

Is it my imagination or what but I thought I saw somewhere about a game 13 ready to download? swear I saw it somewhere before I joined and now I can't find it.
If not the content there is worth the price and I will continue to look for updates. Thanks for any info.

[jel424]

Is it my imagination or what but I thought I saw somewhere about a game 13 ready to download? swear I saw it somewhere before I joined and now I can't find it.
If not the content there is worth the price and I will continue to look for updates. Thanks for any info.

Technically, there is no Game 13. The original Game 9 was removed from the site and replaced with a new one, which could be referred to as Game 13 if you were fortunate enough to see the old Game 9 before it was removed. Otherwise, the newest game just appears as Game 9.

[puzzler]

Thanks for the info jel424. I can stop looking now.
Unfortunatly I did not see the old game 9.

[darkroom]

Are you sure the game 9 was replaced ?
I downloaded it again but it seems the same as before...

Tnx

[jel424]

Are you sure the game 9 was replaced ?
I downloaded it again but it seems the same as before...

Tnx

Yes, I'm positive. I have seen both versions. It was not done recently. There was discussion of it in the forum but the webmaster may have deleted it.

[radamanthys123]

Hi everyone. i recently joined the forum and even though there are a lot of people saying there will be no more updates I think the price is worth for everything in this site. I just came across this material by luck and definitely is one of the most original sites I've ever seen. :applause: Wish the site keeps up. :thumb:

[Jack100]

I will say it would be nice to see updates from time to time..............It is outstanding original content...............

[perci_vee]

I say download everything now and expect it to be said and done. If I am wondering about updates.. and im probably one of the newest members its safe to say its been abandoned.

I havent even seen any of the players in other vids, thats how I know that this was more likely likely REAL. so yeah, grab em all for your collection. its gone the way of the real uk dodging tapes and OMG bangbus back 6 years ago when it was legit before it became 100% actors and actresses.

It sucks. Id gladly cough up more dough for a new episode once every two months.

[Jazzbeu55]

I consider this to be one of the great concepts ever developed for a voyeur website and I would love to see it continue. Perhaps it falls just short of Jennicam in historical importance, but it certainly is at the top of the next tier down from that. The webmaster apparently has endured all of the expense and frustration he cares to endure pursuing this concept.

The concept would be easy to "knock off," with only minor variations to avoid legal problems. No one else has stepped up to do that. While it would be great fun to do it, neither my marriage or professional career would fare well if I chose to take the idea to another site. Someone out there can do it and would likely have a blast filming the segments. Ideally, the webmaster could act as a franchishee or consultant and make a few bucks helping someone else to produce additional videos of this type. This is a great concept and I hate to see it die short of 100 episodes.

Someone in a big city or major college town could do well with this if they would work with the webmaster to further to develop it. Of course, you must understand that I am a coward encouraging others to be bold and do what I won't. Hopefully, this will plant a workable idea in someone's head.

[CptCooper]

No offence to you allmighty webmaster, but the purpose of an adult website is twofold: 1 - Provide sexual entertainment and 2 - Make money. I don't think you're going to find youself convincing a whole lot of people to shell over their hard-earned cash for the ability to access a website that hasn't advertised an update since 2007. I REALLY like the idea that you've started here and think it could be HUGE, but not if you just let it sit and fester. I'd love to be a long-term member, but I just can't find a reason, I'm sorry.

[fuzzybunniesrule]

100% agreed.

I paid my money for the videos I wanted in 2007. I haven't spent a cent here since then. Maybe income is still coming in. Maybe it isn't. In any case, it will stop at some point without updates.

[Excalibur]

i really hate this thread. and the fact that im contributing to it makes me wanna smack myself. but ive been a member for 2 years-ish. it doesnt hurt to ask if there have been any prospects within that time... does it look like anything possibly might be in store for the future? my curiosity got the better of me tonight.

[Webmaster]

I don't know if DareRing connoisseurs will appreciate it, but I just discovered a very obvious DareRing Rip-Off Site (http://join.truthorsex.com/track/OTA1NjoyNTo4/).
Balloons stuck to the wall and everything. :crazy:

[Excalibur]

does that mean you are pissed and suing?

[Webmaster]

does that mean you are pissed and suing?

Nah ... look how many BangBus ripoff sites there are now ...

[sidloves]

That's some of the most porn acting I've ever seen in my life.

[Excalibur]

very true. hopefully someday soon this site will take off again with some new content.

[Billy]

Their audio quality is horrible. The players were too eager to get naked, and the game has no structure. It lacks, the "drunken Friday Night" element that makes Dare Ring so great. I'll take this site any day.

[jack345]

Seems like TruthorSex.com is gotten even worse. There are no games on the site anymore. Downloaded are also gone. Only online portions of games with no connection to a real game. They only had two full games (and 5/14 or the third game) up before the site was revamped.

Even the imposter cannot do this right.

[yoyoma2008]

Definitely does not look as good as the real thing, looks too much "acted and staged"

Hopefully the real darering will get up and running again!

[jamey1974]

I have to agree with you Lepre. The darering site is (was?) unique. Even though not all games were good, but I liked the amateur setup and I enjoyed the sexual tension between the players (well most of them).

The new site doesn't apeal to me what so ever. The "watch me fuck my girlfriend tapes" are all over the internet, and often available for free.

The Truth and Dare games looked like a new niche on the internet. From what I understand is getting people to play the games is the biggest problem because the webmaster is in a small town.

Maybe some ideas to consider:
- after placing adds in the free papers of Portland as the closest bigger city, rent a room or something every last saturday of the month to tape a game (and maybe a bonus), if this works you have two updates a month (and the players won't have to travel for a couple of hours, hence more responce (?));
- sell or rent out the concept of this website to a producer in a larger city, the contract should state that the buyer will not significantly modify the concept.
:thumb:
What is this.?Webmaster? You have a great site and it's just dead.Possibly you don't make enough money from your other jobs to work on The Dare Ring site.This was the only site that turned me on.Imagine May having to come over and give me a B.J. for 30 seconds and then later until climaxx. What an idea. May is so hot. If Bob Crane ran the site,he would have a field day.He would probably be a player.He wouldn't have the males suck each other.Getting the amateurs is the best.Who wants to see Porn Stars play Dare Ring ?,never give up on a great idea.A site as great and original as this should not be dead.Sell Your Sex Tape is stupid.I would save 10,000 dollars and try to get girls like May and other babes for a game.The guys are good because we imagine we are them.Please don't abandon such a great idea.This is the only site that turned me on,The rest are just same ole same ole as usual.Lose 50 pounds maybe you'll get hornier.I know Bob Crane would be putting out flyers all over town with a vengeance.Plllllllleeze.Don't Quit

[Blank]

Another suggestion is to find groups that are more likely to have people who might participate. (You'd be surprised what you can find at a science fiction convention in the evenings, if you look carefully.)

[CnudeGuy]

The take that I get from the present DareRing players is that their personal inhibitions made it over the barrier of potential embarrassment, so the first several game members kinda kept things rolling, even as new players rotated into the games.

Continuity and establishing friendly camaraderie between members goes a long ways toward any group's sustainability. I wonder if there was a split, or rift between members, or if there was an arbitrary rotational clause in the contract?

Jamey, I think you have some good comments. But, some people are like me, bi-curious, and to see some genuine sexual interplay with hesitant same-sex players is a very real turn-on, and a great way to illustrate the real barriers everyone faces in the area of sexual group activity.

In some of the first games, it seemed that a bit more mature couple on the right were involved with taping the game, and, to be honest, I find them to be quite a bit more fun and horny than the younger players, especially the girls who acted so cold to any "guy" interactivity. They were a severe turn-off, in fact.

Anyway, my 2-cents worth is to seek out a wider mix of age in the players, and if married couples can be found, even into their upper senior years, the spice and mature sexual horniness that these venerable sex-gurus will add won't soon be forgotten. It's a fantastic turn-on for a young guy to have an older lady give him the best sex he'll ever have! Maturity and experience have no equal, especially in the sex department.

About penis in pussy action, boy! would that be a nice addition! Even with a condom. It's not for all game players, but some couples who are friends, and share group sex in a safe environment could sure lend DareRing some much-needed spice!

What is this.?Webmaster? You have a great site and it's just dead.Possibly you don't make enough money from your other jobs to work on The Dare Ring site.This was the only site that turned me on.Imagine May having to come over and give me a B.J. for 30 seconds and then later until climaxx. What an idea. May is so hot. If Bob Crane ran the site,he would have a field day.He would probably be a player.He wouldn't have the males suck each other.Getting the amateurs is the best.Who wants to see Porn Stars play Dare Ring ?,never give up on a great idea.A site as great and original as this should not be dead.Sell Your Sex Tape is stupid.I would save 10,000 dollars and try to get girls like May and other babes for a game.The guys are good because we imagine we are them.Please don't abandon such a great idea.This is the only site that turned me on,The rest are just same ole same ole as usual.Lose 50 pounds maybe you'll get hornier.I know Bob Crane would be putting out flyers all over town with a vengeance.Plllllllleeze.Don't Quit